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Polls - Voter Laziness, Party Sloth

Being the sort of person I am, I like to dig into polls to see on what they are basing their claims. More than a few fail to support their contentions. This is not necessarily because the pollsters are trying to mislead anyone, but in any case it matters that the reader should know what he is considering. And to that end, I am once again discussing why a poll is created, and how its results are reported.

Polling, you should know, is a business. Many people forget that, and as a consequence fall into thinking of pollsters as thoroughly objective and trustworthy people, the sort who should speak at Church on Sunday, and raise your children to learn all that is good and noble. Unless of course, that pollster is Zogby. John Zogby is a poster child for everything wrong with modern polling, whether it is his habit of mixing respondent pools from telephone and online polls, or his clearly partisan presentations. On the other hand, however, there is Gallup, which has a long and admirable record of trying to find the pulse and mood of the nation. In between the two extremes, are many useful polls, even when I disagree with their conclusions. The CBS News/New York Times poll, for example, tends in my opinion to oversample self-identified Democrats, but they also painstakingly report their internal demographics, so that anyone so inclined can take apart the poll and see how they got their conclusions. I find this is the foundation of any poll's credibility; you have to be able to see their work. Otherwise, even if one likes the stated results, there is no basis for counting the claims to be sound.

But back to money. Someone, always, is paying for a poll. And while most polls will note the sponsor of the project in their release, most of the time the buyer can be discerned by the publisher. Neither CBS News for the New York Times, for example, is in the habit of giving over much credit to a Republican, much less a Conservative, and so the poll they produce has a similar mood in its direction. The reader may do well to recall that during the last several elections, every major candidate paid for his or her own internal polling, to be reported back privately to them. This condition implies that public polls cannot be wholly trusted on their face, and the student of the Public's opinion should be aware of this point.

Another reason I am writing this column on polling, is the current practice of treating opinion polls as news events. If you think about it, you will realize this is very much putting the cart before the horse, as any responsible poll should be reporting on news through the focus of public opinion, not trying to drive opinion by implying a consensus already exists. The reader will note how polls often present one candidate as clearly ahead just before an election, how they will report a supposed support or resistance to a course of action before any such action is even in serious discussion in Congress or the White House. The fact that, so many months before the fall elections, the question of party control in Congress should be bandied about as anything sure or known, is to my mind no better than trying to ploy the decision in advance, tampering with the jury as it were. One expects this of known partisans, but self-described objective observers have no place in such behavior.

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Comments (8)

Polls need to be taken in t... (Below threshold)
a4g:

Polls need to be taken in the same light as a "can't lose" stock trading scam: a perfect predictor for yesterday's close.

Great to see you here and g... (Below threshold)
smh10:

Great to see you here and great piece even for those of us who dislike and disbelieve most polls and the politics behind them. Nice in-depth explanation though.

Agreed. Pollsters are paid... (Below threshold)
JAT:

Agreed. Pollsters are paid consultants - to be employeed they need to support a predisposed position of the person or party paying for the pool. I trust a used car salesman more than a pollster.

Hey great to see you here. Enjoy your writings.

A poll result can vary wide... (Below threshold)

A poll result can vary widely on the same issue, depending on how the sample is drawn, how it is weighted, and how the questions are phrased. There are just too many variables for anything other than a poll with a clear yea-or-nay choice to be reliable, as in election surveys taken close to the voting day, amongst those identified as likely to vote.

"Issue" polling is just too dependable on wording. For example, polls of public attitudes on the NSA surveillance: the results were quite nearly flipped by a different wording of the question.

If we can affect an electio... (Below threshold)

If we can affect an election by speculating on who'll win it, we should be doing that as much as possible!
I predict Condi will win in '08!
I predict Condi will win in '08!
I predict Condi will win in '08!

DJ glad to see you here. </... (Below threshold)
JohnMc:

DJ glad to see you here.

The more concise version of your posting -- Will Poll for Food.

The bigger item that you allude to is that poll pieces have become the substitute for analysis and contemplation. In the past MSMs used to do this quite well and with depth even if a little slanted. You don't see any of that now days. What is typically analysis these days is veiled propaganda.

"A child can go only so far... (Below threshold)

"A child can go only so far in life without potty training. It is not mere coincidence that six of the last seven presidents were potty trained, not to mention nearly half of the nation's state legislators." -- Dave Barry

"There is an old saying in statistics that if you torture the data enough, you can always make it confess"

-- more where those came from

"There are just too many va... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

"There are just too many variables for anything other than a poll with a clear yea-or-nay choice to be reliable"

Question: Are you 100% satisfied with the president?

Answer: No

Poll result: 100% of the people polled are dissatisfied with the president.




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