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Virginia Senate - Jim Webb on women

So, who is more modern in their attitude towards women: the Taliban, or Virginia Democratic nominee for Senate, Jim Webb?

Tough call. Chad Dotson of Redstate reports:


Well, now let's look at Jim Webb, the Democratic candidate for US Senate in Virginia, in his own words:

"And I have never met a woman, including the dozens of female midshipmen I encountered during my recent semester as a professor at the Naval Academy, whom I would trust to provide those men with combat leadership." (pg. 148, "Women Can't Fight," Washingtonian Magazine, November 1979)


"Many women appear to be having problems with their sexuality...What kind of woman would seek out the Academy routine?" (pg. 282, "Women Can't Fight," Washingtonian Magazine, November 1979)


Read the full post, and access the hyperlinks, at the link above.

There is a LOT more of Webb. But don't worry, it's only mid-September. Plenty of time for the really juicy stuff . . .

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Comments (22)

There goes George Allen, co... (Below threshold)
Hannity:

There goes George Allen, covering himself in Sh#it. There goes Wizbang, licking it up.

This guy is William Donald ... (Below threshold)

This guy is William Donald Schaeffer in 50 years, but without the sense of humor.

It is going to be fun

Hannity: A lot of people a... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Hannity: A lot of people are wondering if the democrats have a brain among them. You open your mouth and remove all doubt, they don't.

So should I support the Nav... (Below threshold)

So should I support the Naval Academy Grad/Marine officer/Navy Cross recipient who doesn't want to send women and mothers to war or the eternal frat boy who apparently does?

Heh.Notice what pa... (Below threshold)

Heh.

Notice what pathetic losers the Webb fans are. Bird of a feather, and all that, eh?

:-p

Yeah, I noticed that too, J... (Below threshold)
Hannity:

Yeah, I noticed that too, Jim, isn't it hilarious!

Scrapiron, your punchline needs some more work.

How about this one:
Scrapiron likes stealing other people's "Democrats are stupid" jokes, almost as much as Wizbang likes licking up George Allen's . . .

That's a punchline.


We're all quite impressed w... (Below threshold)

We're all quite impressed with your original thought, Hannity, but your oral fixation with George Allen can't be a healthy thing. Get Mommy to take you to the Free Clinic - they do wonderful things with psychotropic drugs these days.

Is that all you Allen defen... (Below threshold)
Noneya Bizz:

Is that all you Allen defenders can come up with. A 27 year old article? You're losing your touch on your dirty tricks. Try to find something from this century! It's not like he was insulting women a few weeks ago. At least he can change unlike a racist that doesn't have the guts to admit he knows what Maccaca means when he's not around his racist supporters.

So, I can assume that you r... (Below threshold)
George Allen's Noose:

So, I can assume that you republikans think that women should be in combat? I would think that this article would cause you to like Webb a bit more...if you were capable of independant thought...

Still waiting on a Webb bac... (Below threshold)

Still waiting on a Webb backer who can demonstrate an age over 14 and an IQ over 75.

I don't think Virginia will allow these above to vote in a real election, but Webb should do well in the high school mock elections.

For what its worth, thats a... (Below threshold)
Jimminy H. Christ:

For what its worth, thats a terrible thing to say, in my opinion. However, at least it can be said that Webb was making comments on a still salient issue, women in combat, Allen was calling an Indian a monkey, which is a debate point that got settled about 40 years ago. Hopefully someone slaps Webb for once being a dumbass and beats the FIERY SHIT out of Allen for still being a racist. See the proportionality there? People say liberals don't understand justice.

What exactly is it about yo... (Below threshold)
Donzacatl:

What exactly is it about your own comments, Jim Addison, that suggests "an age over 14 and an IQ over 75"? As a 55-year-old woman with an IQ in excess of 150, I would point out that Mr. Webb's comments regarding women in the Navy were made during a period when women in the military faced an even more rigorous up-hill battle than they now do; in such an environment, I suspect his observations were fairly on-target for the time. I would also suggest that Mr. Webb, who became Secretary of the Navy only a few years later, probably had much more expertise on the subject than any of us can claim. And please note: Mr. Webb did not say that a woman with leadership abilities and no sexuality issues did not exist - only that he had not yet met one.

In answer to this article's original question "So, who is more modern in their attitude towards women: the Taliban, or Virginia Democratic nominee for Senate, Jim Webb?" Since the Taliban don't believe women should be seen outside of their homes unless covered from head to toe, and should never have responsibilities of any kind whatsoever other than wife/slave and mother, I would say that Mr. Webb's attitude, even if unchanged from 1979, is the more modern of the two. What a completely specious comparison!

"Mr. Webb did not say t... (Below threshold)

"Mr. Webb did not say that a woman with leadership abilities and no sexuality issues did not exist - only that he had not yet met one."


Gee, ol' James really should get out more, huh?


Let's have a show of hands: anyone who thinks the above poster's IQ really hits triple digits, raise your right hand. No, your other right hand . . .

rofl

"Webb should do well in a m... (Below threshold)
Hannity:

"Webb should do well in a mock high school elections."

Hahahahaha! That's hilarious!

Here's one: George Allen didn't give my buddy's reserve group armored humvees or current body armor in 2003-2004. He didn't ask G.W. about a plan for securing the peace in Iraq. He's doubled the national debt in a period of 6 years. He voted for the 2005 Bankruptcy Reform Act which gave credit card companies a status similar to mortgageholders. He has knee-capped the middle class at every opportunity.

The punchline?

Here's another one:<p... (Below threshold)
Hannity:

Here's another one:

A friend of mine, Matt Horning from Scotch Plains, NJ was turned to ash and bone fragments in Tower 1 WTC on 9/11.

George Bush and Dick Cheney tell me, Matt's family, his one-time girlriend, and all his friends that we:
"Don't understand the nature of the enemy that we're dealing with." That "We have forgotten the memory of 9-11". Simply because we disagree with his Iraq policy.

George Allen remains silent.

How about this one, a littl... (Below threshold)
Hannity:

How about this one, a little on the lighter side:
George Allen says
"Our strategy is: They lose, we win".

You have a military background, right Jim?

Explain to me how "They lose, we win" is a strategy.

Just stumbled in here... I... (Below threshold)
Shemp:

Just stumbled in here... I can't believe this race is even close. Allen's an ass from way back... An apologist for the admin. and no ideas of his own...

He's embarassing, and a GOP fav for '08!!

Look at it this way, Jim and the rest of you mouth-breathing Repulicunts, if your boy loses now he can spend the next few years meeting in secret with his white friends and try to figure out what went wrong... then he can burst out in a lather and hit Iowa strong...

He'll get his ass kicked, but it'll be fun to watch...

When you have no ideas - sm... (Below threshold)

When you have no ideas - smear your opponent! Except that this "shocking revelation" was freely admitted to and discussed in the press in 2005. Just more proof that Allen is Bush-lite... he can't even sling mud like GW! And god knows we don't need another six years of it.

From 10/30/05 interview in the San Diego Union-Tribune:
"Q: In 1979 you famously wrote a piece questioning the Army's embrace of females in combat situations. Later you criticized what you saw as hysteria in the aftermath of the Navy's Tailhook scandal. Do you have any second thoughts on those issues?

Webb: My view then, and the decibel level was loud on all sides back in 1979 with the Carter administration. The Carter administration had just ordered the Joint Chiefs of Staff to support a political policy that did not exist. They had ordered them to support removing the ban on women in combat. That's when I wrote that piece. And the commandant of the Marine Corps at that time, Robert Barrow, who is one of my all-time Marine heroes, stood up to them. He called me after he had done it. He basically said that the deputy secretary of defense had given them that order and they had all smartly saluted except for Barrow. He said I do not believe that is a legal order, I'm going to have my counsel check on it. If it is a legal order, I'm going to explain to the Congress the circumstances under which I'm obeying it. And they backed off. But that's how high the decibel level was and how much the political intrusion in the military was going on at the time.

Q: But what was your position?

Webb: When I was secretary of the Navy, I opened up more billets to women than any secretary of the Navy in history. But we did it the right way. I got my warfare chiefs, the three warfare chiefs, to go down and examine inside their own specialties where women should be absorbed. I had them then report to the chief of naval operations. And then the chief of naval operations reported to me. I had the uniform side make the decisions, the recommendations, and then bring them to me. This wasn't me standing up there pontificating because I was a civilian official. So when this has been done in a rational way where it works, I fully support it. When it's an intrusion from the outside, I think that not only I but other people should have questions. So where it is now? I think that from what I can see from a distance it's working well."

Webb wrote in 1997, in the ... (Below threshold)
Sgt. Ma'am:

Webb wrote in 1997, in the Weekly Standard, just about the same sht that basically says that women should not be in the military.

So, I either get to vote for a racist or a sexist.

Fugging wonderful.

Sgt. Ma'am, there is always... (Below threshold)
Jimminy H. Christ:

Sgt. Ma'am, there is always another option. Vote green! Baha, wish I could say that with a straight face. *laughs* *cries* *laughs* *masturbates in the corner while eating a wonderbread and miracle whip sandwich* *cries*

lol, 1979, George Allen is ... (Below threshold)
cris:

lol, 1979, George Allen is a racist at that time, how do you like it?
your opinion is basically: once a thief, always a thief, people never change, world never move... lol, stupid

You're missing someone from... (Below threshold)
Carla:

You're missing someone from your Taliban or Jim Webb list. Where's George Allen? I mean, I've read literally thousands of words on this Senate campaign and still cannot find anything (after peeling away the macacas and the n-words) to tell me that George Allen is enlightened about women. He's surrounded by men in his campaign, and his poseur persona consists mostly of him swaggering around in cowboy boots with a big hunk of 'baccy in his mouth which, according to some of the women who've been posting to various blogs, he has been known to spit in their direction ... ewwww.

Then I look at Webb's campaign, and I see a guy who has a lot of women working in the higher reaches of the campaign, and that he has taken positions largely favored by women, and that he apologized for any distress his 27 year old article might have caused. I mean, what's with the whole "Taliban" thing? It's pretty obvious that Webb respects women a lot more than Senator Macaca.




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