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The New Mobocracy

Tuesday evening I strolled over to Polipundit to check reaction to the President's State of the Union address. I might as well have visited Andrew Sullivan's site or Kos-land, for the level of maturity I found there. Of course, to expect maturity from the Polipundit readers at large is a bit like expecting Mike Nifong to do his job properly, but that's not the issue for here. I mentioned that most people would ignore or mock what the President said, and I was proven right by the content of the comments which followed my observation.

Soon after that, personal insults against me started. Small wonder, since I am a known supporter of the President and therefore an enemy to many of Polipundit's tenants. But what else happened was a strange study in mob dynamics; I was quickly - and quite falsely - accused of banning certain readers from Polipundit.com when I was one of the hosts there. What's intriguing is not the charge per se - that was a common lie used by a few individuals back in 2006, when the site polarized beyond repair and the site owner declared a dictatorship.

What is interesting is that the charge has taken a sort of "Woodstock" effect; where initially only two readers believed they had been banned - possibly an honest error, although the claim was never true - by this past Tuesday it was as common as buying coffee from Starbuck's to claim that DJ Drummond had banned one from the Polipundit.com site. I addressed those claims fully when they first surfaced, and I would ignore the matter now, except that I perceive a syndrome at work, and one which is likely more pervasive than people are aware or would like to admit. It is that syndrome which not only is willing to lower one's standards of conduct into the muck of false accusation and slander, but which in some cases comes to prefer it, so that the lie is the first choice rather than a desperate attempt. In the perspective of the Rabid Right, the arch enemy is typified by sites like the Daily Kos, which controls the tone and direction of its debates by quite deliberately banishing anyone who even appears to be Conservative, Rational, or who dares to question the marching orders of the Left. Thus, when the Rabid Right wishes to destroy an enemy, the preferred attack is to accuse him - however falsely - of acting in a like manner to the Daily Kos, even when this requires the RR to use the Kos' own dishonest tactics, as we see here. Ignored is the fact that I answered the claims fully when they first came up, and ignored too is the fact that it was always impossible for me to ban individuals from the site, even if I wanted to do so. But in examining this situation, another unfortunate action has become evident; apparent malice on the part of the site owner.

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Polipundit.com was created by a single person, who posts under the screen name "Polipundit". When he decided to bring additional writers onto his site, there were certain conditions under which we operated, one of them the obvious fact that the site owner retained control of the site. Early on, there were incidents with individuals who attempted to disrupt discussions, using foul language, personal attacks, and attempts to derail discussions onto non-seqiturs. Three of the four new writers pressed for the right to ban the IP addresses of those offenders, but the site owner declined to grant that right. Offensive posts could be and were deleted, and in extreme cases an IP address could be banned from a specific post, but since Polipundit.com at that time usually had more than a dozen new threads a day, anyone kicked from one thread could simply show up again in another thread. Veteran readers of Polipundit.com may recall that readers often complained about thuggish behavior which moved from one thread to another. So those people who pretend to have banned from the site are either individuals who were banned from a few specific threads where they refused to act civilly, or who were banned from Polipundit.com by the site owner himself [the only person who ever that ability], or who were in fact never actually banned at all. In any case such people are lying, making false accusations for whatever reason their spite brought to being in their foul hearts.

The significance of this fact comes from the claims by some, that the site owner "restored" them to access to the site, and they implied that the site owner blamed me for their access difficulties. As I have no specific knowledge of communications between the site owner and such persons, I cannot say whether the individuals are lying or the site owner is, but in either case the actions and the lack thereof from that site owner are disappointing. When the site owner threw out the other writers from his site in May of 2006, certain promises and understandings were made in email communications, which I prefer not to detail here, except that all parties promised to act in an honorable manner, especially in not blaming the other side for any misunderstandings or in creating any hostility. I will say plainly that all the writers who left Polipundit.com kept our promises, including not revealing the true name or location of the site owner, nor disparaging his reputation. I must bluntly observe that the site owner of Polipundit.com has not done the same, failing to keep certain specific promises made, and in my case if he did not directly malign me for an action he knows full well I did not commit, he at the least made no effort whatsoever to correct the record when those individuals began falsely accusing me of banning them. The site owner knows full well that I am guiltless in that matter, and therefore he knows those accusations to be false and malicious, yet he has not once taken it upon himself to correct the record, apparently preferring the smear to the truth. He ignored email requests from me to correct the matter in mid-2006, and apparently is still happy to let a lie stand in order to malign me, even after I have wished him well, supported his endeavors and heretofore held from publicly pointing out his ignoble behavior. I suppose shame is powerless against some folks.

What is interesting here, however, is that Polipundit.com used to be a site of fair discussion, obviously right-of-center but a place where Liberal perspectives and arguments were welcome. What has changed, is that while Liberals still visit the place and state their piece, the civility is gone. Completely. The place has the ambience of a biker bar, where only crude epithets and sub-graduate logic are acceptable; the more genial Liberals who could banter in good spirit are quite gone, replaced by knuckle-draggers who do little more than throw insults. The same for the Right, where anyone who supports the President may expect to be ill-used, and context is lost to the preferred simplicity of the mob mentality. In recent weeks, the feeling one gets from visiting Polipundit.com soon after arriving, and especially after a comment which dares to pursue a modest discourse, is that one is glad to be there only in a virtual sense, because in a real-world establishment of this type, one would be fervently hoping for the appearance of a police officer or six. A rhetorical gang-rape is the program du jour at Polipundit.com, without fail. While the present writers are generally good, and one in particular worth the read in 9 out of 10 times, the sense of the place is foreboding and dire for anyone who does not stay in the herd.

I have seen this also at other formerly intriguing sites, though admittedly at a mush lower level of hostility to reason and civility. Yet it must be said that in the Blogosphere, the number of sites which are truly open to considering alternative points of view and maintaining a civil atmosphere are in the decline. Whether Left or Right, the promise of the "New Media" is no longer the fresh invitation to expand one's horizons and explore the full dimensions of an issue. In this measure, I fear that the Blogosphere is representing the mindset of the populace as a whole. The President addressed the nation last night on a number of critical issues, but it is doubtful that many people listened at all, whether on the Left or on the Right. Twice elected President of the United States, with more than 62 million Americans lining up behind him in 2004, George W. Bush is now ignored because of personal enmity, turf wars, an arrogant media, and a desire to put expediency ahead of principle. The liars pretend that deserting the President on Iraq won't impact our troops there or the mission, they claim that they only 'criticize' the President when they call him names and lie about his intentions, and they all pretend to better qualification, these posers who have none of them been elected to office, nor who have borne the weight and responsibility that Dubya has carried for more than half a decade now. They defecate on the flag with their actions, but would have one believe they are freshening the place up. And their style is becoming the norm.

History warns us that these things may represent a greater threat than mere incivility. After the American Civil War, the Ku Klux Klan managed a campaign of terror for decades in the South, domestic terrorism and mob violence directed at millions of Americans simply for their race and culture. Along the West Coast in the 19th Century, race riots and lynchings of Asians were common, to the degree that law enforcement did nothing to stop it, even at the federal level. Immediately after the First World War, a period of civil unrest in the United States included assassinations and bombings, and waves of criminal violence that was only put down with near-nationwide martial law through the Palmer Raids. And there are people alive today who recall the polarization of race during the late 1960s and early 1970s, which still influence New York and California politics and social conditions. Yes, it's a stretch to jump from name-calling on a discussion board to race lynchings, but it is important to observe that the road to such violence started just the way our present road is changing, away from personal discretion declining the use of personal invective and a constant application of context to discussions, to the wholesale and deliberate disruption of legitimate authority, and demands for violent and radical action. This present road ignores the root causes of Terrorism and the decay of procedural standards in political debate, replacing them with the self-satisfying personal attack and the expedient poll-advancing statement which promotes the next political campaign at the cost of the nation's health and welfare. While we are but newly set on that road, we dare not ignore its destination. And the Blogosphere, which moves the quickest of all media and enjoys the repute of popular support and participation in the greatest measure, is now called to the duty to restore Reason to the helm.

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Comments (12)

DJ:After urging fr... (Below threshold)
eddie bear:

DJ:

After urging from "wethal", I did go back to polipundit for a time up to the election. But I concur with your assessment. That site has become home to some nasty critters who make the Freepers look sane. Many of them feel that losing is teh best recourse, and that is stupid.

I also find it amusing that the owner of the site has all but abandoned writing himself (I assume it's a "he") and off-shored the responsibility to others. If what you have said is true regarding him not keeping his end of the bargain, are there any recourses?

Bear in mind,

JUICY! But the problems you... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

JUICY! But the problems you enumerate won't change as long as most blogs are in the pamphlet stage with nicknames obscuring the author's identity. Sure, perspicacity shines through when it's there, but most of what I call "comment blogs" are poorly written and thought-out and the fun comes from reading a diversity of opinions that are bounced off the original post. The level of the thesis or observation posited by the author is the biggest determinant of the level of response. Would many deign to embarrass themselves with a less than considered response to isteve.com (via permalink)? NOOOOOO! So I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it. Remember: comments are proof SOMEBODY'S reading the blog.

I don't know why I wrote "B... (Below threshold)
eddie bear:

I don't know why I wrote "Bear in mind". Sorry.

Drummond,what do you expect... (Below threshold)
TimOliver:

Drummond,what do you expect when you call people traitors?A slap on the back?

Jesus,I've never read somebody who is so in love with himself."Remember: comments are proof SOMEBODY'S reading the blog."That is bad news for you Drummond,what do you get,like three comments if you're lucky?

Interesting! I read Power L... (Below threshold)
Charles_in_Texas:

Interesting! I read Power Line and Tiger Hawk and many military blogs for reasons you discuss.

I know of no sane Liberal blogs or bloggers.

Well said DJ... I used to g... (Below threshold)
Republican:

Well said DJ... I used to go to Polipundit a great deal for the analysis you all provided, but that place has absolutely gone down hill and descended into all the things you laid out.

Am happy to make WizbangPolitics my blog of choice from here on in.

I used to be an active memb... (Below threshold)
Denise:

I used to be an active member at PoliPundit but the changes over there are terrible. One of the major contributors is an out-and-out liar and doesn't like being called on it.

I still check in over there once or twice a day to see what they are complaining about but it has truly become a zoo.

I only went to Polipundit b... (Below threshold)

I only went to Polipundit because of you, Alexander and Lorie. Since you left I have removed Polipundit from my favorites and ignore the occasional temptation to see what they're up to; I WON'T give them the benefit of my visit. Allow me to beg you to give us a hint of who this Polipundit critter really is from time to time (like is it a former southerner who now infests the Pacific Northwest?).

And even though I seldom comment I really appreciate your posts, DJ.

Polipundit actually started... (Below threshold)
Rightmom:

Polipundit actually started getting the liberals posting there more frequently when he started calling President Bush El Presidente and really started abusing Bush on anything with regards to illegal's. I have posted about the downturn over there however I have to assume that this is now a link I will have to remove from favorites, such a shame really.

Polipundit is ABSOLUTELY CO... (Below threshold)
Charles_in_Texas:

Polipundit is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT about illegal aliens. I do not read the rest.

Polipundit is right about t... (Below threshold)
Rightmom:

Polipundit is right about the illegal's however the tone of his argument drown's that out.

Polipundit is absolutely wr... (Below threshold)
LorenU:

Polipundit is absolutely wrong about illegal aliens and immigration in general. The Republican Party must be pro-immigration and humane towards illegals in order to be a competitive party come election time.

The way things are----we may have four political parties come 2008.




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