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GOP debate and Fred's announcement

Being otherwise engaged earlier, I had to wait for the replay of tonight's GOP debate. In the meantime, Fred Thompson announced his candidacy on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno. Fred did well, but the enthusiasm of the spring was not there in the crowd. He did hit some good applause lines, but stepped on a couple of them, reinforcing the notion that his public speaking skill doesn't approach his acting ability.

Fred was trying to upstage the debate, and I don't think he necessarily succeeded. He did make the point about the insignificance of most of these debates, but ironically it came on the night of probably the closest thing to a real debate either party has seen this cycle.

On the debate: Keep reading below the fold for my take on the individual performances.

Rudy Giuliani ~ While he's the established frontrunner, he's not in the position Hillary Clinton holds on the other side. Rudy is still around 30% nationally; well ahead, but he isn't close to clinching. He doesn't therefore enjoy Hillary's debate advantage of "winning" any time she isn't seen to lose. That said, Giuliani didn't need the edge. He was on message and strong throughout, and I rated him the winner by a hair.

John McCain ~ The Senator's best performance yet, strong and thoughtful, and close to winning. McCain isn't out of this race yet - not due to his positions, although on Iraq and spending he scores well with the base, but to his character. With McCain, there is no political pretense. He says what he thinks, and is completely sincere. He's still a prohibitive long shot at this point, but he hasn't been scratched yet.

Mike Huckabee ~ I've joked about his effective campaign for Vice President, and this isn't an exception, but he has been consistently strong in the debates. Tonight was no exception. He can't win except by some byzantine scenario, but he won't embarrass any nominee as Veep, either.

Mitt Romney ~ He had his moments, but this was his weakest performance to date. He seemed to waver on Iraq, echoing recent statements on the stump, and stumbled to recover. Strong at times, but without any foreign policy credentials he needs to be unambiguous and clear, and he was neither tonight.

Duncan Hunter ~ Good performance, good guy, why are you here again?

Sam Brownback ~ Nice audition for Vice President - in 2016, maybe. Stick with the Senate, Senator.

Tom Tancredo ~ He's here just in case there are Hispanics we haven't already alienated.

Ron Paul ~ A genuine, foaming-at-the-mouth nut case. I prescribe a maximum dose of Thorazine, followed by a long walk off a short pier. Maybe he could play a flute and induce his weirdo supporters to follow him.

Bottom line: Fred wins with the bigger audience but ticks off New Hampshire. Rudy and McCain are clear winners, Huckabee for Veep, Romney was asleep, the rest are irrelevant.

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Comments (6)

Agree mostly and enjoyed th... (Below threshold)
hnav:

Agree mostly and enjoyed the read.

Thanks.

Rudy remains excellent.

I feel Romney did much better than your take.
His expression on Taxation, Abortion, Marriage, GWOT, Iran was very strong.

Also find McCain as extremely lackluster.

Demeaning Sec. Rumsfeld for his own political ambition, who bravely tried to implement the policy McCain wanted, is simply ugly.

Besides, Sec. Rumsfeld was a principle player in the team which successfully removed the Taliban and Saddam from power.

McCain savaged the Swifties... (Below threshold)
kim:

McCain savaged the Swifties impulsively, incorrectly, and without subsequent apology. He, too, is Unfit for Command. Sad to say, he, even, is Unfit to be Commanded.
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Jane at JustOneMinute liveb... (Below threshold)
kim:

Jane at JustOneMinute liveblogged the Republican debate elegantly, as is her wont. It's on the Outraged thread.
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This was the first debate I... (Below threshold)
C:

This was the first debate I listened to so I can't compare to earlier debates. I was actually most impressed with Huckabee. Ron Paul is an idiot and has no business being on the stage with serious contenders. Tancredo who is my congressman and who I have met had strong points to make, but couldn't string a sentence together.

I thought all of the frontrunners skirted some of the issues. Rudy didn't overly impress me in the debate, but was better in the interview after the debate.

Did energy policy ever come up? (The debate didn't have my 100% attention at the beginning.) If you want to reduce our involvement in the middle east, you have to address energy and do something to reduce our consumption of middle east oil. ANWR anyone?

I watched and I'd say McCai... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

I watched and I'd say McCain "won" with Huckabee coming in a close second.

I still want to see more of Thompson, and hopefully now that he's officially in we will, but if he doesn't impress enough, I think Huckabee will have my vote.

Guiliani played like a broken record--pretty much the same answer to every question.

Romney is nothing more than a better looking and less communist version of John Kerry.

Paul was very entertaining, but I suppose it's cruel to be ammused by the mentally unstable.

Paul provided the highlight... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Paul provided the highlights. Again.

Or as Hannity moaned at the flash poll results:

"AAAH, Not AGAIN!" (Paul 1st with 33%, heh.)

So Paul got bang for the buck, McCain woke up.

Huckabee was fluent as usual, but his open borders slip was shown, so mostly good, some bad for him.

The clear losers were Moonman and the Opus Dei guy, Brownback.

Brownback because no one cares. I see him out soon. One robot per campaign, please!

Moonman for his inability to replicate human facial expressions. The Wry Smile funtion works OK when playfully breaking Fred's balls, but Blank Smile when told his own sons are pansies: strictly Moonman. Empty suit. C3P0.

And who was the giggler? Was that Ghouliani or a panelist?




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